Zen and Self-Penalty

I get the following story from the web about a conversation between a venerable monk and a woman.  The original is in Chinese.  I translate it here: 

一位女士不停地述說自己的苦難，沒完沒了。

 A woman had been talking non-stop about her suffering and grievance. 

法師打斷她的話說：你的苦還真多呀！

The master had interrupted her, "You really have lots of suffering!"

女士：別人訴苦最多需要三天三夜，我訴苦需要三年！ 

 Woman:    Other people may at most take 3 days and nights, my grievance needs 3 years to spell out!

法師：那是什麼時候的苦？ 

Master:   When did your sufferings occur? 

女士：前幾年。

Woman:   Within the last few years.

法師：那不是過去了嗎？為什麼還緊抓不放呢？（停了一下）你拉出的糞便臭不臭？ 

 Master:   Were these sufferings already passed?  Why do you still hold on to these sufferings?  (Paused).  Do the feces of your bowel movement smell?  

女士：當然很臭啦！

Woman:  Of course, very smelly!

法師：現在糞便在哪裡呢？ 

 Master:  Where are your feces now?

女士：拉完就沖掉了。

Woman:  I had flushed them away after I was done.

法師：為什麼不把它包起來放在身上？見到人就拿出來告訴別人，說我被這東西臭過？ 

Master:   Why don't you wrap your feces up and carry with you?   Then show and tell anyone you meet that you were smoked by these feces.   

女士：那多惡心！

 Woman:   This is nauseating!

法師：對呀！苦難也是一樣，它已經過去了。回憶和訴苦就如同把糞便拿出來向人展示，既臭自己又臭別人！越訴苦越苦，越抱怨越怨。

 Master:   Exactly!  Sufferings and grievance are similar.  They had already passed.   Recollection and grieving about them are similar to showing your feces to people--  smelly to other people and yourself .  You suffer more when you recollect your past suffering.  You grieve more when you talk about your past grievance.

The story above illustrates the Bazi concept of "self-penalty"-- people's tendency to relive their grievance and suffering by talking and thinking about their unpleasant experience repeatedly.  People who listen to their grievance also suffer from this self-penalty like second-hand smoking.  We may call this "second hand penalty".

Psychologists and psychiatrists like self-penalty because they get paid US$200+ per hour here to listen to people's grievance.

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Another Approach to Self-penalties

Previous post derives self-penalties by matching branch 3-unities (San-he) to 3-meetings (San-hui).  This post uses branch groups to locate self-penalties.

Classic Bazi segregates 12 branch elements into 3 groups:

4 cardinal or peach-blossom elements
--  zi, wu, mao and you
4 sub-cardinal or traveling horses elements
--  yin, shen, si and hai
4 storage or tomb elements 
--  chen, xu, chou and wei 

From the above, we have 3-penalties

1. zi-mao penalty
2. yin-shen-si 3-penalties
3. xu-chou-wei 3-penalties

The branch elements that are missing in these 3-penalties actions become self-penalty when running into identical element.  

Self-Penalties:

• Chen-chen
• You-you
• Wu-wu
• Hai-hai

Don't overlook the destructive power and influence of self-penalty.  It could be as serious as other penalties.  Out of the 4 self-penalties, wu, you and hai self-penalties are most serious because:

• Wu-fire is the yang-knife (羊刃) of bing-fire
• You-metal  is the yang-knife of geng-metal
• Hai-water is the yang-knife of gui-water 

Self-penalty becomes serious matter when the corresponding stem showing up in the stem level, especially if the stem is also the daymaster (DM).

Self-penalty could mean:

• self-inflicted pain/ injury
• self-sabotage 
• addiction
• depression
• worrisome
• meddlesome
• petty
• cannot let go of trivial matters

If the self-penalty element is also the yang-knife of the DM,  s/he may have health problems (self-inflicted, psychosomatic or psychological), suicidal due to depression, love-sickness depression and the likes.

Self-penalty is also one of the causes of depression.

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Bazi: Where do penalties come from?

Where do all these penalties come from?  I have created the tables below for you to figure out the relationship at a glance:

SOURCES OF PENALTIES

One approach to derive penalties is matching 3-unities (San He) with 3-meetings (San Hui) like additions.  From the tables above, we have the following penalties:

3-Penalties

• Yin-si-shen  (from 4 sub-cardinal branches)
• Xu-chou-wei  (from 4-storages)
• Zi-mao  (from 4 cardinal branches)

Red= cardinal, blue= sub-cardinal; brown= storage

Penalties:

• Yin-si, yin-shen, si-shen
• Xu-chou, xu-wei, chou-wei

Self-Penalties:

• Chen-chen
• You-you
• Wu-wu
• Hai-hai

It will be a long story to explain the above individually.  Please check my past blog articles on this topic for details.


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PRIORITY LIST FOR EARTHLY BRANCHES

Here is the priority list for formation (frame), combination, penalty and clashes (chong). Please save the list for your future reference:

1. 4-clashes, as in zi-wu-mao-you ("chong")

2. 3-meeting formation ("hui", frame, like yin-mao-chen wood meeting)

3. 3-unity combinations ("he", e.g. shen-zi-chen water combination)

4. 3-penalty ("xing")

5. 6-mutual clash, e.g. wei vs. chou (chong)

6. semi- 3-unity combination, like zi-chen semi water combination ("he")

7. mutual penalty ("xing")

8. 6-combinations ("he")

9. 6-harm ("hai")

10. break ("po")

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4P PENALTY NO MORE

The title sounds like a copycat of the book
"Co-dependence no more".

In last episode we talk about a white beard guy had
fooled around with the 3-unity and 3-meeting formula
and created a ton of penalty formula, to make our 4P
job miserable. In this episode I'll show you how to
fight back with a big laugh.

To avoid brain damage to human actors, only animal
actors are used in this episode. (Here is another
franchising idea - Pet 4P Readers!)

The followings are the penalties formulae that we need
to memorize:

THE ORGIN OF THE FORMULA
METAL 3M: shen - you - xu
METAL 3U: si - you - chou
FIRE 3M: si - wu - wei
FIRE 3U: yin - wu - xu
WATER 3M: hai - zi - chou
WOOD 3U: hai - mao - wei
WOOD 3M: yin - mao - chen
WATER 3U: shen - zi - chen

SELF-PENALTY GROUP
You - you (Chicken or rooster)
Hai - hai (Pig)
Wu - wu (Horse)
Chen - chen (Dragon)

3-PENALTIES GROUP
Zi - mao (Mouse - Rabbit)
Si - shen - yin (Snake-Monkey-Tiger)
Xu - chou - wei (Dog-Ox-Goat)

If you have stopped eating your veggie and abstain
from sex for a month, you will be able to memorize
these 7 penalty formula in less than a minute with
lifetime retention (provided you have no self-penalty
in your 4P chart).

To memorize the 4 self-penalty formula, all you need
is to visualize a smart chick dressed in a PhD cap and
gown.

chick = rooster or "you"
P= pig or hai,
H= horse or wu,
D= Dragon or chen)

For the 3-penalties, think of a Mentally Retarded DOG
wants to play SM with a horny Tiger.

Mentally = M as in mouse or zi
Retarded = R as in rabbit or mao
=> this is zi-mao penalty

D = dog or xu
O = ox or chou
G = goat or wei
=> this is xu-chou-wei three penalty

S = snake or si
M = monkey or shen
Tiger = tiger or yin
=> this is si-shen-yin three penalty

Putting it all together, imagine this scenario:
"A chick with a PhD tries to teach a mentally retarded
dog to play SM with a tiger."

Seven penalty formula are hidden in one sentence! It
is pretty easy for us to see a dog or have dogs as
pets, so you will be reminded constantly of this
sentence day after day.

Disclaimer: Ken Lai and/ or this list will not be
responsible for any PhD (permanent head damages) as a
direct or indirect consequence of your internalization
of this sentence, like beating up your spouse during
sex.

In case you don't understand what "SM" means, deposit
$30 in my Paypal account and I'll send you a file.

-- This message is bought to you by "4P Boot-camp"
Copyright (c) 2005, Ken Lai. All rights reserved.

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