I get the following story from the web about a conversation between a venerable monk and a woman. The original is in Chinese. I translate it here:
一位女士不停地述說自己的苦難,沒完沒了。
A woman had been talking non-stop about her suffering and grievance.
法師打斷她的話說:你的苦還真多呀!
The master had interrupted her, "You really have lots of suffering!"
女士:別人訴苦最多需要三天三夜,我訴苦需要三年!
Woman: Other people may at most take 3 days and nights, my grievance needs 3 years to spell out!
法師:那是什麼時候的苦?
Master: When did your sufferings occur?
女士:前幾年。
Woman: Within the last few years.
法師:那不是過去了嗎?為什麼還緊抓不放呢?(停了一下)你拉出的糞便臭不臭?
Master: Were these sufferings already passed? Why do you still hold on to these sufferings? (Paused). Do the feces of your bowel movement smell?
女士:當然很臭啦!
Woman: Of course, very smelly!
法師:現在糞便在哪裡呢?
Master: Where are your feces now?
女士:拉完就沖掉了。
Woman: I had flushed them away after I was done.
法師:為什麼不把它包起來放在身上?見到人就拿出來告訴別人,說我被這東西臭過?
Master: Why don't you wrap your feces up and carry with you? Then show and tell anyone you meet that you were smoked by these feces. 女士:那多惡心!
Woman: This is nauseating!
法師:對呀!苦難也是一樣,它已經過去了。回憶和訴苦就如同把糞便拿出來向人展示,既臭自己又臭別人!越訴苦越苦,越抱怨越怨。
Master: Exactly! Sufferings and grievance are similar. They had already passed. Recollection and grieving about them are similar to showing your feces to people-- smelly to other people and yourself . You suffer more when you recollect your past suffering. You grieve more when you talk about your past grievance.
The story above illustrates the Bazi concept of "self-penalty"-- people's tendency to relive their grievance and suffering by talking and thinking about their unpleasant experience repeatedly. People who listen to their grievance also suffer from this self-penalty like second-hand smoking. We may call this "second hand penalty".
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